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| MARINA PLANS: An artist's impression of the planned 560-berth marina at the sailing academy |
PLANS for a 560-berth marina and new facilities at the Weymouth and Portland National Sailing Academy for the 2012 Olympics have been lodged.
The Olympic Delivery Authority (ODA) submitted applications to build a new permanent slipway, more race-boat parking, and lifting and mooring facilities at the academy at Osprey Quay.
The facilities will be used during and after the 2012 Olympic Games when the centre will host sailing competitions.
Construction work is due to be completed by the end of 2008, meaning that Weymouth and Portland will be one of the first venues ready for the 2012 Games.
Developer Dean & Reddyhoff has also submitted planning applications for a new 560-berth commercial marina at Osprey Quay.
Some 250 berths will be used during the Olympic and Paralympic Games. The marina will include retail and industrial units.
Lord Sebastian Coe, who is chairman of the London 2012 Organising Committee, said: "This scheme will transform Weymouth from an existing top-class venue into a world-class training and competition venue equipped to stage further major international sailing events and competitions after the 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games.
"The enhancements will also provide new opportunities and facilities to enable people from a wide range of backgrounds and abilities to experience the thrill of sailing. This will leave a legacy of elite and recreational sailing for future generations."
The plans were displayed at an exhibition last month.
The three-day event gave people the chance to comment on the proposals. It was attended by more than 300 people.
Bruce Voss, who is head of operations at the South West of England Regional Development Agency, said: "These plans are a prime example of how we can deliver economic growth, within environmental limits.
"The planning applications promote improved facilities for sailing and related water sports which have low environmental impact that can sit comfortably in the high-quality natural environment surrounding Osprey Quay.
"Once consented, this multi-
million investment will bring significant economic benefits to South Dorset and the wider region."
The waters off Weymouth and Portland have been hailed as the best for sailing in northern Europe.
The sailing academy has also been labelled as the finest training and competition venue in Europe.
10:42am Monday 2nd April 2007
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CommentPosted by: ian on 11:37am Mon 2 Apr 07
Will the Marina's berths be [bold]affordable[/bold] for local people with [bold]inexpensive[/bold] yachts? or will this be another money spinner off the back of the Olympics that squeezes the local people out and get the "used once a year"gin palaces in and chattering classes in the yacht club "ol'boy"?
Answers please?
Will the Marina's berths be
affordable for local people with
inexpensive yachts? or will this be another money spinner off the back of the Olympics that squeezes the local people out and get the "used once a year"gin palaces in and chattering classes in the yacht club "ol'boy"?
Answers please?
Posted by: Jeremy, Weymouth on 11:53am Mon 2 Apr 07
[quote][bold]ian[/bold] wrote:
Will the Marina's berths be [bold]affordable[/bold] for local people with [bold]inexpensive[/bold] yachts? or will this be another money spinner off the back of the Olympics that squeezes the local people out and get the "used once a year"gin palaces in and chattering classes in the yacht club "ol'boy"? Answers please?[/quote] So you can see nothing positive from this plan then? Or do you prefer what is in place at the moment?
ian wrote:
Will the Marina's berths be affordable for local people with inexpensive yachts? or will this be another money spinner off the back of the Olympics that squeezes the local people out and get the "used once a year"gin palaces in and chattering classes in the yacht club "ol'boy"? Answers please?
So you can see nothing positive from this plan then? Or do you prefer what is in place at the moment?
Posted by: ian on 12:11pm Mon 2 Apr 07
Of course I do, I hope to be getting a yacht in the nearish-future myself when I have saved up enough money but I don't want to find out that the moorings are so expensive no average local person can afford them.
Why should such a relaxing and wonderful way of life only be for the privelaged "ol' boys" or those with surplus money to chuck around.
I hope it is priced accordingly to reflect all kinds of sailors and budgets and not just the gin palaces as seems to be the case already happening in many marinas etc.
Of course I do, I hope to be getting a yacht in the nearish-future myself when I have saved up enough money but I don't want to find out that the moorings are so expensive no average local person can afford them.
Why should such a relaxing and wonderful way of life only be for the privelaged "ol' boys" or those with surplus money to chuck around.
I hope it is priced accordingly to reflect all kinds of sailors and budgets and not just the gin palaces as seems to be the case already happening in many marinas etc.
Posted by: Terry on 12:50pm Mon 2 Apr 07
It seems a better idea than the 'proposed' Pavilion re-development but like ian, I hope that it is going to affordable for the everyday sailor and not priced for the 'gin palace yah-yah people'
It seems a better idea than the 'proposed' Pavilion re-development but like ian, I hope that it is going to affordable for the everyday sailor and not priced for the 'gin palace yah-yah people'
Posted by: Sh** A'hoy on 1:34pm Mon 2 Apr 07
Looks like a great proposal. Hopefully it will be accessible to ordinary folks. A surfeit of snotty yachties flouncing around is not going to do Weymouth any favours.
Looks like a great proposal. Hopefully it will be accessible to ordinary folks. A surfeit of snotty yachties flouncing around is not going to do Weymouth any favours.
Posted by: Len, Weymouth on 2:14pm Mon 2 Apr 07
I hope that before this and the pavillion marina's are built someone consults with the harbour master or someone else to see how tides & water flows will be affected.We could end up with a "shift" of beaches if sea flow is affected.
I hope that before this and the pavillion marina's are built someone consults with the harbour master or someone else to see how tides & water flows will be affected.We could end up with a "shift" of beaches if sea flow is affected.
Posted by: graham, weymouth on 4:03pm Mon 2 Apr 07
Get it built and scrap the plans for a marina at end of the pier in Weymouth
Get it built and scrap the plans for a marina at end of the pier in Weymouth
Posted by: AL44, Weymouth on 8:44pm Mon 2 Apr 07
Hmm...bit puzzled by your comments. If you really want to sail and are financially challenged why would you be looking to buy and moor a boat? It is much cheaper to hire one or just be part of a sailing crew. If you then want to take part in competitions etc you can get sponsorship. I'm not aware that Ellen MacArthur was a rich woman before she got into sailing!
Hmm...bit puzzled by your comments. If you really want to sail and are financially challenged why would you be looking to buy and moor a boat? It is much cheaper to hire one or just be part of a sailing crew. If you then want to take part in competitions etc you can get sponsorship. I'm not aware that Ellen MacArthur was a rich woman before she got into sailing!
Posted by: ian on 10:47pm Mon 2 Apr 07
AL44 Speaking for myself I have no interest in competition thanks. I am talking about live aboard.
Sailing yachts are not that expensive if you know how to shop. Why have all the money you have saved being flogged to death by mooring fees because they want expensive Gin palaces there that only get used a few times a year?
They must consider ALL types and classes of boats. It is only fair, ordinary people are excluded from far too many pleasures because of snobbery, elitism etc.
AL44 Speaking for myself I have no interest in competition thanks. I am talking about live aboard.
Sailing yachts are not that expensive if you know how to shop. Why have all the money you have saved being flogged to death by mooring fees because they want expensive Gin palaces there that only get used a few times a year?
They must consider ALL types and classes of boats. It is only fair, ordinary people are excluded from far too many pleasures because of snobbery, elitism etc.
Posted by: Graham on 4:10am Tue 3 Apr 07
I just don't understand....build this, build that for the Olympics, great for the time the games are on, what will weymouth and portland look like in the future when no one has the money for moorings and we then have unused space and facilities that will get neglected. I have the feeling over time after the Olympics weymouth will go downhill fast, the scale of weymouth is fine, why up-scale just for an ''event'' long term this will kill the area. Weymouth does needs an update, modernise and an overhaul, but it seems to me most of the work that will be carried out will be for the Olympics and not the long term future of weymouth. Well if it looks good on TV then great. Put the money into the future and not for a over hyped event.
I just don't understand....build this, build that for the Olympics, great for the time the games are on, what will weymouth and portland look like in the future when no one has the money for moorings and we then have unused space and facilities that will get neglected. I have the feeling over time after the Olympics weymouth will go downhill fast, the scale of weymouth is fine, why up-scale just for an ''event'' long term this will kill the area. Weymouth does needs an update, modernise and an overhaul, but it seems to me most of the work that will be carried out will be for the Olympics and not the long term future of weymouth. Well if it looks good on TV then great. Put the money into the future and not for a over hyped event.
Posted by: Dave McCune, Weymouth on 7:38am Tue 3 Apr 07
Though I agree that a marina is necessary (and hopefully not at the end of the Pleasure Pier), I do not agree with the proposed developers Dean & Reddyhoff - who already have a private marina in Weymouth Harbour. With no competition in the area prices can only be expected to rise and it be the locals who will lose out as the Weymouth Council Marina will have to post similar prices (something to do with government rules and local councils having to utilise their assets to make the most of them).
Though I agree that a marina is necessary (and hopefully not at the end of the Pleasure Pier), I do not agree with the proposed developers Dean & Reddyhoff - who already have a private marina in Weymouth Harbour. With no competition in the area prices can only be expected to rise and it be the locals who will lose out as the Weymouth Council Marina will have to post similar prices (something to do with government rules and local councils having to utilise their assets to make the most of them).
Posted by: Jeremy, Weymouth on 8:47am Tue 3 Apr 07
[quote][bold]ian[/bold] wrote:
Of course I do, I hope to be getting a yacht in the nearish-future myself when I have saved up enough money but I don't want to find out that the moorings are so expensive no average local person can afford them. Why should such a relaxing and wonderful way of life only be for the privelaged "ol' boys" or those with surplus money to chuck around. I hope it is priced accordingly to reflect all kinds of sailors and budgets and not just the gin palaces as seems to be the case already happening in many marinas etc.[/quote] That's quite a chip you have on your shoulders there fella! As shown by many of your previous posts as well.
Any scheme in my opinion that creates employment, creates better facilities, creates better surroundings and creates better opportunities has got to be good in my opinion.
For too long the area has not realised its potential and has degenerated - now it has finally woken up and investment is pouring in! And long may it continue!
ian wrote:
Of course I do, I hope to be getting a yacht in the nearish-future myself when I have saved up enough money but I don't want to find out that the moorings are so expensive no average local person can afford them. Why should such a relaxing and wonderful way of life only be for the privelaged "ol' boys" or those with surplus money to chuck around. I hope it is priced accordingly to reflect all kinds of sailors and budgets and not just the gin palaces as seems to be the case already happening in many marinas etc.
That's quite a chip you have on your shoulders there fella! As shown by many of your previous posts as well.
Any scheme in my opinion that creates employment, creates better facilities, creates better surroundings and creates better opportunities has got to be good in my opinion.
For too long the area has not realised its potential and has degenerated - now it has finally woken up and investment is pouring in! And long may it continue!
Posted by: ian on 11:59am Tue 3 Apr 07
Jeremy, do not confuse a chip on one's shoulder with years of seeing many so called schemes, plans and projects do little more than make the rich, richer and provide things for the better off. I think this is now happening on a much larger scale as we head toward the Olympics. I agree that Job creation is good, but how many full time jobs will be left for local people when the hype is over? How many local people will truly benefit from the facilites?
Always look deeper behind these things, don't just blindly belive everything you read or are told.
Jeremy, do not confuse a chip on one's shoulder with years of seeing many so called schemes, plans and projects do little more than make the rich, richer and provide things for the better off. I think this is now happening on a much larger scale as we head toward the Olympics. I agree that Job creation is good, but how many full time jobs will be left for local people when the hype is over? How many local people will truly benefit from the facilites?
Always look deeper behind these things, don't just blindly belive everything you read or are told.
Posted by: El Che, Somewhere in Bolivia in bits on 1:05pm Tue 3 Apr 07
Indeed, Comrade ian, indeed...let us not put down our arms but fight for the rights of the poor shell-suited tourists instead. I decree that we build more caravan parks to house them, more fast food outlets to feed them and more hospitals to tend to them after they have got shedded on Alco pops and assaulted each other.
Ra Ra Up the proletariat.
Indeed, Comrade ian, indeed...let us not put down our arms but fight for the rights of the poor shell-suited tourists instead. I decree that we build more caravan parks to house them, more fast food outlets to feed them and more hospitals to tend to them after they have got shedded on Alco pops and assaulted each other.
Ra Ra Up the proletariat.
Posted by: ian on 8:14pm Tue 3 Apr 07
It is only you who will be living with the consequences not me ;-)
Ra Ra that !
It is only you who will be living with the consequences not me ;-)
Ra Ra that !
Posted by: ian on 8:22pm Tue 3 Apr 07
It is only you who will be living with the consequences not me ;-)
Ra Ra that !
It is only you who will be living with the consequences not me ;-)
Ra Ra that !
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